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«South Pole sells valid credits only»

Tobias Billeter
7.3.2023
Translation: Katherine Martin

With every 10th purchase, our customers offset their climate footprint with carbon credits from South Pole, the world’s leading climate company. Over the last few weeks, some media outlets have claimed that not all of this is above board. We decided to ask South Pole CEO Renat Heuberger himself.

If the articles published by some media outlets are to be believed, investigative journalists have got wind of a scandal. They say, for example, that South Pole sells carbon credits for forest protection projects, even when no CO₂ has been compensated. Or, to put it another way, that South Pole is hoodwinking customers and lining its own pockets in the process. What do you say to that?

South Pole only sells externally certified emission reductions. Each credit confirms the reduction of one tonne of CO₂ emissions. All of the calculations are transparent and the project documentation is publicly available.

Doesn’t a general conflict of interest arise with forest protection project developers when, for instance, too many certificates are deliberately issued based on an incorrect deforestation forecast?

Let’s move on to the Kariba forest conservation project. The press has lampooned one of your first forest protection projects in Africa, and hasn’t held back on dishing out some hefty accusations. Some reports suggest, for example, that «worthless» credits have been sold. Is this criticism justified?

South Pole only sells valid credits that correspond to an equivalent CO₂ reduction. The criticism is also an unfair blow to the people of northern Zimbabwe, who’ve been benefitting from the project for over 10 years and have massively reduced deforestation in the region.

A projection is required for every climate protection project, not least so that an assessment can be made of whether it’s capable of generating the desired impact. Again, South Pole can’t influence these emission reduction projections – we have to follow the certifier’s methodology.

How do you explain the criticism in the media?

It’s also important to distinguish between credits issued by the certifier and those sold by companies like South Pole. We didn’t sell 36 million credits. It was actually only about 23 million. Everything has been done above board – every single credit is genuine. Every Digitec Galaxus customer who has offset the CO₂ generated by their purchases is a part of this impressive success story in Zimbabwe.

Are today’s projects still set up according to the same standards they were ten years ago?

During long-term investment projects, such as tunnel or dam construction, there are always miscalculations and massive cost overruns. This is because the basic conditions are constantly changing. Does this also apply to forest conservation projects? If so, why?

Clearly, such a thing is possible in forest conservation projects. Probable, even. Changing political and legal frameworks, complex ownership structures and so on can all lead to delays. The important thing for Digitec Galaxus customers is that South Pole only sells credits that actually correspond to a real emission reduction of exactly one tonne of CO₂. If the project is delayed or implemented to a lesser degree than planned, we also sell fewer credits.

As project developers, what specific factors do you take into account when calculating the CO₂ reduction potential?

What are the greatest uncertainties when projecting CO2 reduction potential?

How is controlling done for forest protection projects? How do you ensure that your estimates aren’t completely off the mark after a few years, allowing, as has been claimed, for the sale of credits that should never have made it to market in the first place?

In addition, a baseline review takes place every 10 years. And in the future, this will be done every 6 years. The current methodology checks how high the deforestation rate was in the reference area, i.e. outside the project. These calculations are also very complex and usually take at least a year to complete. This is because the process requires a complete set of data from a huge area of Zimbabwe, spanning at least one full dry season and one full rainy season.

Has there been a controlling failure in the case of «Kariba»?

VERRA, which has been criticised by some media outlets, issues credits. Is this organisation still viable in light of the media’s allegations?

VERRA is the only organisation to date that’s been able to issue credits for highly complex large-scale forest protection projects at all. At the moment, there’s simply no other alternative. Carbon credits for forest protection projects can’t be issued without VERRA. In the short term, the only alternative would be to stop standardised measurements and certifications and donate money to Africa through environmental organisations, as was done in the past.

Is there anything wrong with doing that?

Carbon markets are much more likely to bring transformative benefits to disadvantaged countries – which often have complex circumstances – by providing more stable, long-term revenues for local communities and development projects.

Critics are calling for an independent monitoring body to keep a close eye on credit sellers, including South Pole, and stop questionable deals. What’s your take on that?

«Zeit Online» reported that some South Pole employees had resigned due to dissatisfaction. Is that correct?

No, that statement doesn’t reflect reality. In our most recent engagement survey, employees expressed that their work at South Pole inspires them and that they identify with South Pole’s mission, vision and purpose. Values such as diversity and innovation are also drivers of South Pole’s success. We currently employ around 1,200 people from over 30 different countries, and our experts are proud to work at South Pole.

What would be your proposal to ensure climate protection projects are monitored transparently and credibly?

Let’s look ahead for a moment. The buzzword «carbon capture and storage» has been causing a furore in the industry for some time. How would you rate the potential of this technology?

To achieve the net zero target, we need all sorts of solutions, and we need them very quickly. In this respect, we also very much welcome carbon capture and storage projects. In 2022, we launched the NextGen CDR Facility for exactly that. We’re delighted to have large companies such as UBS, Swiss Re, BCG, LGT and Japan’s Mitsui as the first investors.

Thank you for this open discussion, Renat.

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Tobias Billeter
Head of Corporate Communications
Tobias.Billeter@digitecgalaxus.ch

Making sure employees and media know what's up at Digitec Galaxus is my job. But without fresh air and a lot of exercise, I basically stop functioning. The great outdoors provides me with the energy I need to stay on the ball. Jazz gives me the tranquility to tame my kids. 


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